RESULTADOS

1º y 2º ... bueno... algo rarísimo, trás empatar Ironmen con Impact (vitoria para Impact, empate, vicotria para Ironmen) tocaban los 1 vs 1(el equivalente a los penaltis) pero al parecer Josh Davey y Oliver Lang decidieron compartir el primer premio. Por lo tanto los dos han quedado primeros, o algo así... el público se cabreó, los espectadores flipamos en colores, pero al parcer no quisieron dejar que los 25000$ del premio  se decidieran en una tanda de 1vs1... INÉDITO
3º Hurricanes
4º Image

La final estaba interesantísima: Ironmen e Impact llevaban una ganada cada uno y un empate, por lo que iban a jugarselo al mejor de tres 1vs1, cuando de repenta.... decidieron compartir el primer puesto!!!!   

Ante la avalanca de criticas que estan recibiendo Ironmen, su capitan Ollie Lang ha publicado este comunicado en su foro de pbnation:

"The Real Deal

So at this point most of you are wondering what exactly is going on.
First off it was a great weekend all the conditions were perfect and it was nice to be at a different venue than all the same locations in the pervious year.
The NPPL put on a great event and I accredit them for it.
So let me jump back 8 days, last weekend we had a fantastic practice against Impact.
At least that's what I heard; unfortunately Brandon Short and myself had to miss it to attend a charity event in Portugal. The response I got from my team was Impact was a straight up team with a good group of guys. No arguments, no fights nothing all weekend, just a good grind.
So I return to hear that we played really well against them, and the kids on our team were really starting to get that confidence you need to be successful in the pro division.
Since the beginning of the year I have known that Impact was the team to watch out for, and practicing them was going to be a great learning experience.
Short and myself showed up to 7 guys who had been playing great together, so we were going to have to do a 9-man rotation. I never really like that before but it's the best way when your team and your guys are playing so well.
We cruised through the prelims only losing one game to Image where Chris was just having a clinic. We went into the quarterfinals in 1st place being 5 and 2, and again advancing into the semi finals 1st seed. We faced Image who was playing great, but we were revved up and beat them in two games.
At the same time impact did the same against Hurricanes.
Needless to say it was going to be a match up against the team we were playing one week ago today at practice.
I felt that is was deserved, because besides us they were the next best team. I am a firm believer of winning an event and playing the best team in the finals not some chump team that got lucky.
Impact was exactly that team. We went out the first game and lost, but being in this position many times before I knew it was fare from over.
We switch sides and went into the second game, only to stalemate. Now in my book there was nothing to out of the normal about how this game went, last 20 seconds of a game people play to win. We went into them 5 on 2 and we almost pulled it off, but the buzzer rang and the game was over. We left the field and started to get ready for the 3 and final game to see if we could win and advance on to a one on one shoot out.
I go to enter the field and I see a band of refs and the captain of Impact Josh Davey having a discussion. I was told it was because I didn't sign the previous games score sheet. Little did I know they were conspiring on a penalty to be pulled on us there for giving Impact the win on an infraction against us? I was shocked and appalled! This game was nothing like the Joy Dynasty in OC, it was completely standard.
The stories were mixed up and we didn't get to speak our peace before their decision was made. I lost it! This is not why we came to Kansas, this was not why we practice and put our blood sweat and tears into getting this far and it being taken away from us on a technicality.
We fought and fought, told our side of the story and the 3rd game was on the way.
Impact was shocked of course thinking they had already won, but they are competitors and their first place victory would be tainted if it were given to them like that.
We walked onto the field like true sportsmen for the 3rd game.
We were fired up and ready for the game. We went out all cylinders firing and beat them the third game. After that we were getting ready for the one on one challenge.
Trust me we practice one on ones every weekend, we have many tournaments and I win most of themJ, although Marcello did beat me in the finals last practice.
Anyways so we start loading up when Bart the owner of Impact ask Shane and I to come have a meeting with us.
We walked out of the stadium and I could tell he was extremely upset, which is only normal for being a team owner and dealing with the insanities of paintball.
It had been a long weekend and this had just added to it. Everyone was beat down, the refs, the spectators, and they. He came to us and said, that his guys were down after that game. All those highs and lows really drain you and they just were not up to play us in 1 on 1's or a straight 7 on 7 after that whole or deal. Now if Impact was a slime ball team like the other 50% of teams out there I would have said no FU and lets play.
But since I as well as the rest of my team have utmost respect for those guys especially after the good practice we had with them we gave them all the respect they deserved. Bart the owner who is a stand up guy asked up if we were willing to just split everything down the middle and call it a draw. At first I thought there would be no possible way they would go for that and it had never been done before in the history of paintball.
The more I saw the look of seriousness on his face and I thought it would be possible.
Now the Ironmen is a new team as all you know and we are taking this lesson of paintball on step at a time, win or lose we want to play as a unit. We told ourselves at the beginning of the year that we were going to focus more on Xball and take seven man as a learning process to make this team the next best thing.
After this weekend we played so strong and proved it to everyone, I had felt we won the tournament yesterday knocking Dynasty out, which you all know is the best 7-man team out there now and in the past. It was a big game and my guys handled it. We were playing strong all weekend and the decision that the refs made was an unjust ruling and was not how we wanted to end such a great weekend and of course not how the crowd wanted to see it end. When we discussed it with them both Shane and I thought it was a fare and legitimate way of ending it. Of course all the kids wanted to play 1 on 1 but it was the right thing to do. We are both to extremely young teams with a lot to learn we have plenty of room to excel and win more events but how everything went down it was the proper way for two teams that both deserved it. If Impact had not been such a stand up team and a good group of guys we would never have come to this agreement.
I figure for the sport and the future of paintball with to competitive teams this is how it should be done. Of course the crowd hated it because they sat around for two hours but truly we compromised and the staff at the NPPL agreed with our decision.
So we are officially winners, but then so is Impact.
But all I can think about is winning world cup and I know after this weekend the way my team played I feel pretty dam good about it. We have 3 practices and they will be tough but if we can win the world cup and the over all series, I think everyone will know who the best team in the world is. Then we can cruise into San Diego and meet Impact again hopefully in the finals.
Take care all.
Your friend

Ollie"

Comunicado que a muchos nos deja igual que antes, con cara de tontos. En mi pueblo amañar un resultado no está bien me da lo mismo que sea frente a tu amigo del alma o a un desconocido. Las finales se juegan como marcan las reglas y punto.

Cita de: Souler en 24 Septiembre , 2007, 13:56:46
Comunicado que a muchos nos deja igual que antes, con cara de tontos. En mi pueblo amañar un resultado no está bien me da lo mismo que sea frente a tu amigo del alma o a un desconocido. Las finales se juegan como marcan las reglas y punto.

Deberian prohibir semejantes actuaciones. Ayer leyre y yo tuvimos un acalorado debate a las 2:30 de la mañana (!!AVISO!! salsa paintball Sí, vivimos juntos) en el que debatiamos si en vez de darles el dinerito del primer puesto deberian darles el del segundo, dado que ninguno quedo 1º y en esa final se debatian para determinar el 1º y 2º.

En fin, bajo mi punto de vista, una verguenza. De hecho mandé un mensaje, que no fue leido, diciendo que eso es mas tipico de España que de la NPPL!! 

hahhaha, ese Gus que tiene "tol arte"
Yo flipé en colores, anda que sacrificar horas de sueño pa eso... encima luego va Ollie y suelta esa parrafada de "repartimos el premio por que nos queremos mucho" ANDA YA!!! Ollie acuéstate tiiio, debería haberlos descalificado por amañar los resultados! que sinvergüenzas! LOL

vaya tontos del culo.

xke somos amiguitos no jugamos...

Que maduro ke es oliver lang... mae mia

Todo fue muuuuuuuuuuuy chungo:

Para empezar, en la segunda partida que jugaron Ironmen vs Impact, la que quedo en empate, hubo una penalización de uno por uno a uno de los jugadores de Ironmen... penalización que significaba la victoria inmediata de Impact. Vale... pues al parecer se saltaron la regla a la torera para que no se cabrearan los fans???

Luego, lo de repartirse el primer premio... Muy poco profesional... Pero no toda la culpa es de los equipos, segun las reglas de la NPPL si no se juega la final a 1vs1, por la razon que fuere, se determina el primer y segundo puesto mediante lanzamiento de una moneda al aire. A la organización eso se la peló pero mucho, y prefiero pensar q se la pela antes de pensar q se les han olvidado las reglas que ellos mismos han puesto.

Pero otra movida muy muy grave que ocurrió fue lo de Joy. Estaban jugandose la clasificación para las semifinales contra  Image, quedaban tres jugadores de Joy y habian conseguido eliminar a todos los contrarios. Cuando Brian, de Joy, se dispuso a pillar la bandera para colgarla se dio cuenta de que la bandera NO ESTABA POR NINGUN LADO!!!! En ese momento quedaban 20 segundos de tiempo. El tio mira al arbitro y le pregunta que donde coño esta, a lo q el arbitro responde levantando los hombros "No se"... sus compañeros le gritan que corra a su campo haciendo como que lleva la bandera, y cuando lo esta haciendo le dicen que no, que por lo menos vuelva a la valla del otro equipo y coja un pod haciendo de bandera. Total, que lo hace, y cuando le quedan 3-4 metros para colgarla pitan el final de la partida.

Resultado: a Joy ni si quiera le dan "bandera en transito" con lo que queda fuera de las semifinales. Entonces Magued debió montar un pollo que te cagas... al parecer los arbitros de ese campo llevaban cometiendo cagadas contra ellos todo el torneo, pero esto fue la gota que colmo el vaso. Creo que consiguio que se cambiara la puntuacion y les dieran el transito... pero de todas formas no fue suficiente, necesitaban ganar esa partida para pasar el corte!

Es vergonzoso que esos arbitros no tuvieran la bandera lista, pero todavía lo es más que no puedan usar su sentido comun como para saber que si Brian no se hubiera quedado 10 segundos sin saber qué hacer le hubiera dado tiempo a recorrer esos escasos metros que le separaban de colgar la bandera. 

En fin... para información de primera mano teneis el testimonio de Magued en el foro de p8ntballer.

http://www.p8ntballer-forums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=91031

Las putadas PUTADAS que les hacen a Joy Division en la NPPL son INCREIBLES...
La NPPL es el máximo exponente de la INUTILIDAD americana, es penosísima, comparada con la PSP es una vergüenza. Yo opino que JOy deberían dejar de jugar la NPPL y hacer sólo millennium y alguna prueba de la PSP, o incluso participar en la NXL en lugar del Open Xball.

No creo que Joy tiene las financias para jugar en NXL. Si equipos de estados unidos estan dejando de jugar en NXL por falta de dinero, como lo va a conseguir Joy, uno de los equipos pro con menos recursos economicos?
Temo que aguantan esperando que habra cambios en la NPPL, o dejan de jugar en estados unidos. Espero que me equivoco, un NPPL (o PSP) sin joy no tiene la misma gracia

Tienes razón, JOy andan un poco pelaos... aun así la NPPL ya no tiene gracia ni con JOy...

Me parece un TONGO en toda regla. ¡Veeeeeeeeeeeenga hombre! Obviamente no estuve allí, ni lo vi en directo, pero no soy capaz de entender ni cómo les han dejaro hacer eso (saltándose las reglas a la torera); ni cómo se les ha ocurrido o cuáles eran sus razones (porque la parrafada esa no se la cree nadie  ).


Menos mal que la NPPL va a rectificar y les va a obligar a jugar la final antes de comenzar la Commander's Cup en San Diego. Sacado de NPPL.tv:

Kansas City Outcome - Unfinished Business

An otherwise stellar event finished with controversy at NPPL event #4 in Kansas City this past weekend. In the Professional division, Edmonton Impact and the Ironmen battled through three games vying for first place. Impact won the first game, the second ended in a draw and the third went to Ironmen. By NPPL rules the match should have ended with a shootout to break the tie, each team picking 3 players to play a best-of-three series of "one on one".

Emotions and tension ran high and instead of playing the shootout, both teams requested to settle for a tie. Although at the time this seemed like an acceptable resolution, upon further review by the league's Rules Committee, it has been decided to finish what should have been completed Sunday night in Kansas City.

Therefore in the San Diego NPPL Commander's Cup this November, before the Professional games begin, the tie-breaker will be played between the Ironmen and Edmonton Impact. The winner will be crowned the Kansas City Professional Champion and awarded the 26 ranking points that go along with first place while the other team will be awarded 2nd place and 23 ranking points.

The NPPL Rules Committee consists of current and former players along with league officials who make up the 9 voting members and one moderator. The role of the Rules Committee is to address issues between events concerning rules and regulation. When actions occur that aren't within the rule book, the Rules Committee is called upon to determine what steps need to be taken to achieve resolution while upholding the intentions and integrity of the league for current and future play.

Yo lo vi en directo y se pudo ver como la organización apoyaba la decisión...
Ahora está claro que después de la CAGADA han tenido que rectificar OTRA VEZ, al igual que hicieron con JOY, aunque eso más que rectificar fue admitir que la cagaron...
La NPPL es la vergüenza del paintball, la liga con peor arbitraje y organización jamás vista. Menos mal que nos queda la MIllennium y la PSP.

Noticias frescas sobre Joy Division y la NPPL.

-> Joy acaba hasta las narices y anuncia que han decidio retirarse de la NPPL después de la última jornada. Leído en PBPortal.de:

Pressetext:
Stockholm Sweden October 6 2007


It's with a heavy heart we issue this press release.

Joy Stockholm will withdraw from the NPPL series after the last event in San Diego 2007.
It has been a great experience but unfortunately the deteriorating quality of the reffing has made it impossible
for us to commit the time and effort it takes to attend.
We feel that it's now impossible for us to be able to compete on equal basis in the NPPL with the present reffing staff.
We originally had hopes that the situation would get better after the OC fiasco but it has not.
Event after event we have suffered horrendous, unjust calls against us with the last incident in KC where we were denied hang points because the flag wasn't in place (the judge's responsibility) was just the last straw.

It was bad enough the refs had forgotten to place the flag in our opponent's base before the game but after the game had finished and the head judge was made aware of the ref's oversight, they obvoiusly had an opportunity to put things right and elected not to thus precluding our advancement into the semi-finals, that was an outrageous decision and the straw that finally broke the back and heart of Joy Stockholm. We have tried to contact NPPL after the event but they have not bothered to answer or email.


Our apologies to our fans in the US who have been fantastic, the degree of support we have got is what kept us going after OC but I'm sure they will all understand our decision and hopefully we will see each other soon.

Also, apologies to our sponsors who have made it possible for us to attend these events in the US.
WDP-Draxxus-NXE-REBALL-STIFFI-BK-SNAPBOX
We have had 2 great seasons where we have made the final 4 no less then 5 times the last 7 events !!

We hope that NPPL will wake up and solve this problem so other teams can compete on an equal basis.
and stop denying the bias and incompetent reffing.
As for now, the NPPL makes it impossible for a European team to compete on an equal footing due to biased and incompetent reffing.
And that is truly sad because Joy helped NPPL in the first years after the split with the reffing program.
We reffed many events before taking a pro spot in 2005.
We are truly sorry that it had to come to this, hopefully changes will be made in the future that can make
us feel welcome in the US again.
Joy have always been about playing the game for the love and fun of it, and when that is taken away we can't find any reason to continue. Joy have been NPPL's biggest supporters and have attended every event since 2005. We still love everything the NPPL have done for the sport and wish the legue all the best in the future.


Team Joy Stockholm

Magued Idris
Maximus Lundqvist
Sebban Samuelsson
Karl Brian
Karls Samuelsson
Jake Eriksson
Magnus Storckenfeldt
Robin Larsson
Rasmus Larsson
Knut Andre Olstad
Björn Sjödahl
Erik Mellgren


-> La NPPL contesta por vía de Shawn Walker (el nuevo Presidente), leído en el mismo sitio:

Pressetext:
Shawn Walker's Response to Joy Division
Thanks for the email and comments. When we took over the NPPL in January there was a lot of work to do. Many things we have done well while others we have not been able to address yet.

One area we have not been able to improve yet is the refereeing. Although I don't believe it is any worse than it was in 2006 I do know it has not gotten better.

Paintball Refereeing is a very difficult job. It is hard to recruit refs and
even more difficult to properly train refs. This year alone we have done
over a dozen on site trainings that have produced only a handful of refs.

Over the years rules have been made to try and take the decisions out of the refs hands. We've implemented 2 out 3's and more round robin play so one call shouldn't determine the outcome of the match. The Pro teams now play 7 games Sunday morning and the 4th place team in KC made the cut with only 3 wins. That means they lost 4 games and still made the cut. It also means that if a ref call determined the outcome of one or even two of the games they still were able to move on.

This is not meant to be an excuse but rather an understanding of where we are at.

It's now time to rethink where we are at and try to come up with a plan for the future. I am open to suggestions and have been taking calls and meetings from different people with different ideas.

I hope to get through all the different ideas and have a plan in place by
San Diego and work diligently towards an improved effort for 2008.

I would be happy to sit down with you in SD to discuss further or if you
have any immediate suggestions we could do a call or please email me sooner. The more information I can collect now, the better decision I can make for the league.

If after SD you still feel like you would like to take Joy out of the NPPL I
will help you through the process.

Thanks again for your continued support and I hope we can work together to find a solution that helps the sport of paintball.

Regards,

Shawn Walker
President

Suena a "porfi, porfi, no os piréis"

como la NPPL es una cagada JOy se van a la PSP.
Es lo mejor que pueden hacer, 7 man a muerto...